Kick-Up origins, origin of skills

Jack Halpern (jhalpern@cc.win.or.jp)
Sat Dec 10 16:51 JST

|> Jack Halpern wrote:
| >I think Alberto got it just right. I was the first to think of it, and
|> >Daniel was the first to actually do it. But if I'm not mistaken, I did
|> >learn how to do the same day. So let "history" credit us both.
|>
John Foss wrote:
|> Let history credit Daniel, who used it in performance at the 1982
|> National Unicycle Meet. Is this where the two of you learned this mount? I
|> don't know of any time before this when the two of you were in the same
|> place. Bill Karbo and others also picked up the kick-up mount by the end of
|> that weekend.

I disagree, and I think it should be Daniel and I, not because I want
my place of glory in the sun :->, but in principle (see below). Maybe
we did it Kokomo in 1980 or even in Findlay in 1979? I think it may
have been 1980, id daniel was there, but I guess these things can be
checked...

Jack Halpern wrote:
|>
|> >Speaking of history, wouldn't it be great if we could start an archive
|> >recording the stories of the genesis of major unicycling skills

John Foss wrote:
|>
|> Yes, but this raises issues such as:
|> 1. who thought of it first
|> 2. who did it first
|> 3. who did it in front of people first
|> 4. who performed it in a show or competition (widely seen) first
|>
|> Who, of the above people, gets the credit? For the kick-up, I would
|> credit Jack with invention, and Daniel with the first execution, and
|> performance, of the tr-- uh, skill. In my book, Daniel Dumeng gets credit

I think 3 and 4 are irrelevant, 1 and 2 relevant. What does 3 mean, anyway,
one person? 1000? Let's keep things simple.

BTW, I will repeat my challenge for what could truly be considered one
of the ultimate skills: coasting while standing with both feet on the
seat. And, just for the record, I thought of this many years ago....

Stay on top,

Jack Halpern
IUF Vice President
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